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erica david

Vertigo and Marnie always seemed like the weird Hitchcocks to me and now (old) I find I like them much more. Probably because of exactly the weirdness you're talking about. How strange it never struck me till now that Tippi named her daughter Melanie! Also makes me think of the stories of real life tortures endured by the leading ladies during production, beyond just warding off advances. A more obscure one is how all the snooty English actors ostracized poor Joan Fontaine on Rebecca and wouldn't let her in their reindeer games and wouldn't come to her birthday party. Very Mean Girls versus the obvious violence of being pecked at by birds.

George Schmidt

I love VERTIGO; my fave Hitch flick & your namesake so delivers the silky/sad goods; Stewart is excellent as well in a towering performance of confliction.
I haven't seen MARNIE yet - in my DVR queue!

Mark Malevani

It's always annoyed me whenever I've heard people say that Kim Novak plays a "dual" role. The key to understanding and ultimately enjoying "Vertigo" is that she is ALWAYS Judy. It's fun to pick out which scenes she's Judy acting as "Madeleine," and when it's actually Judy. The first viewing of the film we're with Jimmy Stewart following "Madeleine," all subsequent viewings we're with Judy leading J.S. on. Loved the article, Kim! HAPPY BIRTHDAY HITCH!

Warts and all

I actually saw Marnie based off the mention of it in your article on The Piano Teacher (a film that I will probably only see again when I feel timing is right, because thats how I react to a certain grand breed of cinematic impacts on my senses) So to gather your 30+ viewings of Marnie, I guess you make a personal connection in some way. It must be difficult to not further dissect with each viewing and/or pick up on something new that you don't automatically fit within your sculptured form of it, altering the experience to nurture your own viewpoint. I wont go into the blatant faults of Marnie (who cares, right?) because it has its own power beyond all the extra baggage (which I would image would make multiple viewings more interesting). There's the Gilliam quote from an interview that "No masterpiece is without its faults"
But I wanted to say after my initial view, how sexed/threatening/and powerful and exotic Sean Connery's character seemed to me..maybe just the baby James Bond beginning, bleeding over. And the inclusion of the peeping, doting girlfriend to do what? Be a Midge. Was that her name from Vertigo? and the mother of Marnie.
All the characters surrounding her are like a trap she has found herself in. The fox hunt, escape, killing the horse - come to mind.
The man is the threat whether its the perfected winner Connery/Bond or the fall from grace/obsessive/frantic Jimmie Stewert. Both become fierce in the necessity with uncovering the hidden within the mystery of their desire. What they cant have and why not.
The Novack/Hedren blondes are cursed with the bait of their disguise.
That's a tricky thing to say, right?
Also the power of their fears are really manifested outside whatever psychological murkiness.
I mean, that's not all of it. It's multi layered, but this is just a simple comment by somebody somewhere.
Now I am thinking of telekinesis in pre-teen and teen girls.

Warts and all

"And yet, in spite of her pathological frigidity, there's a feeling that somewhere, a ravenous woman could emerge oozing the kind of kinky sexuality"

oh thats it!

Steve-O

I watched Marnie over and over again on video when I first got into Hitchcock. The movie backdrops are wonderfully fake looking, Connery wears a very Bond-like gray suit that he wore in Goldfinger, and "Spinster's Tea." That's the only mention I've ever heard of the drink - tea with a splash of rum.

I'm in the minority but I pefer Marnie over The Birds.

Larry Gross

Dear Kim:
It was great meeting you today and fun sharing thoughts/opinions.
The high esteem in which you hold Vertigo and Marnie is of course totally correct.
I just wonder though, whether accounting for this topic can afford missing mention of Teresa Wright in Shadow of a Doubt,
and Ingrid Bergman in Notorious. Hitchcock plain old seems to like the characters these two women play, there's a tenderness toward them that may not be the MOST interesting attitude in the H. ouevre but it deepens our sense of him. In Teresa Wright's case she's such an archetypical but authentic "all American girl next door" that you feel Hitchcock actually expressing tenderness toward America itself with her. And Ingrid Bergman in Notorious is the one sexually voracious female in Hitchcock's pantheon that he really seems to side with...the scene in the wince cellar in Notorious where Bergman must "pretend" to kiss Grant, when in fact she WANTS to kiss him more than take her next breath, is a moment of ironic but powerful sexual passionateness equal to anything in Ophuls or Mizogouchi.

Anyway, keep up the good work,

best,
Larry Gross
breathinc@mac.com

don r. lewis

Interesting readings of the films, Kim...but I feel this comment: "It's all in the way she holds herself, talks or furtively moves her eyes. It's as if her mind seems ill-suited for her body, unhealthy almost, making her something of a sexual contradiction." might be giving too much of a read into something that's fairly surface.

As Mark pointed out above, Novak is ALWAYS Judy so her furtive eyes and discomfort come from the fact she's dually lying in the film. First, pretending to be Madeleine and later, pretending to NOT be Madeleine.

I also wish I shared your idea that Hitchcock loved women in his own way when I think the opposite is true. I've always considered "The Birds" to be Hitchcock's screed against the burgeoning rise of femininity in the 1960's.

For a man scared to death of women, feminism must have been terrifying to him.

Melanie's independent woman seeking to threaten the bizarre familial relationship the Brenners share is when the birds attack so I think that's one of several key things to look at when discussing what Hitch is getting at.

In any case, Happy belated bday to the master of suspense (no, not you Quentin). I'll take a 20 minute drive out to Bodega Bay this weekend in honor of you, sir.

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